Even her own mother doesn't like her

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_re_us/octuplets

LOS ANGELES – The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.

Angela Suleman told The Associated Press she was not supportive when her daughter, Nadya Suleman, decided to have more embryos implanted last year.

"It can't go on any longer," she said in a phone interview Friday. "She's got six children and no husband. I was brought up the traditional way. I firmly believe in marriage. But she didn't want to get married."

Nadya Suleman, 33, gave birth Monday in nearby Bellflower. She was expected to remain in the hospital for at least a few more days, and her newborns for at least a month.

A spokeswoman at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center said the babies were doing well and seven were breathing unassisted.

While her daughter recovers, Angela Suleman is taking care of the other six children, ages 2 through 7, at the family home in Whittier, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles.

She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, "I'm going to be gone."

Angela Suleman said her daughter always had trouble conceiving and underwent in vitro fertilization treatments because her fallopian tubes are "plugged up."

There were frozen embryos left over after her previous pregnancies and her daughter didn't want them destroyed, so she decided to have more children.

Her mother and doctors have said the woman was told she had the option to abort some of the embryos and, later, the fetuses. She refused.

Her mother said she does not believe her daughter will have any more children.

"She doesn't have any more (frozen embryos), so it's over now," she said. "It has to be."

Nadya Suleman wanted to have children since she was a teenager, "but luckily she couldn't," her mother said.

"Instead of becoming a kindergarten teacher or something, she started having them, but not the normal way," he mother said.

Her daughter's obsession with children caused Angela Suleman considerable stress, so she sought help from a psychologist, who told her to order her daughter out of the house.

"Maybe she wouldn't have had so many kids then, but she is a grown woman," Angela Suleman said. "I feel responsible and I didn't want to throw her out."

Yolanda Garcia, 49, of Whittier, said she helped care for Nadya Suleman's autistic son three years ago.

"From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all," Garcia told the Long Beach Press-Telegram.

"She told me that all of her kids were through in vitro, and I said 'Gosh, how can you afford that and go to school at the same time?"' she added. "And she said it's because she got paid for it."

Garcia said she did not ask for details.

Nadya Suleman holds a 2006 degree in child and adolescent development from California State University, Fullerton, and as late as last spring she was studying for a master's degree in counseling, college spokeswoman Paula Selleck told the Press-Telegram.

Her fertility doctor has not been identified. Her mother told the Los Angeles Times all the children came from the same sperm donor but she declined to identify him.

Birth certificates reviewed by The Associated Press identify a David Solomon as the father for the four oldest children. Certificates for the other children were not immediately available.

The news that the octuplets' mother already had six children sparked an ethical debate. Some medical experts were disturbed to hear that she was offered fertility treatment, and troubled by the possibility that she was implanted with so many embryos.

Others worried that she would be overwhelmed trying to raise so many children and would end up relying on public support.

The eight babies — six boys and two girls — were delivered by Cesarean section weighing between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces. Forty-six physicians and staff assisted in the deliveries.

Family: Octuplets' mother has 6 other children

Stories like this REALLY bother me.

In general, fertility treatments bother me when there are so many children in need of a good home. However, I do realize that for some reason people want to have a child with the same genetics as they have. For someone who wants to have 1 or 2 children, I suppose it is somewhat acceptable, but why on earth should someone that already has 6 children be eligible for that type of procedure?

This story bothers me on many levels -- there is no mention of a husband and the woman lives with her parents. Now, I have no problem with single women having children, so I am not saying it in that sense, just pointing out that this woman is living with her PARENTS, not on her own or with a husband or SO of some sort. Why on earth would someone in that situation need more children?

I can't imagine what type of woman -- single or not would want even 6 children, let along 14. Frankly, I believe this woman must have some sort of mental illness. You know, like those people that horde pets -- only she hordes babies and children.

I personally believe that there needs to be restrictions put on who can have this type of treatment and that someone that already has SIX children should not be eligible. Is that mean of me? I don't think so.

Family: Octuplets' mother has 6 other children - Yahoo! News

Signs

RIP Sweet, Sexy, Soulful - Eartha

My favorite Catwoman and truly one of the most amazing singers to ever have lived. Eartha Kitt will be very missed by myself and millions of others.

1980's and BIG HAIR -- Memories

There was very little that was any cooler than the clothes and hair in the Love is a Battlefield video, but it was all because of ATTITUDE!


Cyndi is the one who let me know that any hair color is fine and more than one is even better. Oh, those big earrings with faces on them, it is hard to find things like that these days.

Madonna made me desperately want and buy those big bow things for my hair and lace gloves with cut out fingers.

Oh and that big hair! I don't know about everyone else, but to get hair that big I had to always be permed. I still can't believe I got up hours before I had to be anywhere just to do my BIG hair. Hair spray, scrunch spray, mousse, blow driers and most importantly -- curling irons. It is a wonder my hair survived.


I didn't have shiny black vinyl pants, but I did have lots of legging. Yeah, long shirts and a belt went with those. Who could live without some ankle boots to go with that outfit?

Weird Vintage Ads

Yeah, I assume the one above is fake. :-)

Shoe Update!

As I was surfing through the Shoes.com site, Jim asked me why was I looking at a shoe site? I just looked at him. After a pause, I said, "Um, well, because it's shoes!" He said "Makes sense." A few moments later, and I found these:

and exclaimed something like "ohmygodthosearethemostbeautifulshoesIwantthem" and so my darling husband said he'd buy them for me for an early Christmas/Hanukkah whatever present, handed me his credit card, and now they're on their way! Thank you sweetie!

Ah, Shoes!

A co-worker had these on the other day, and all of us stopped her and drooled over them for what seemed like hours. We couldn't help ourselves. I mean, there they were . . . what could we do?

She said she bought them at Macy's; I found them on-line at Shoes.com for the same price, they weren't any cheaper. $99.00, which isn't cheap, but good shoes that feel good and don't hurt your feet are worth every penny.

I love these shoes! I MUST have them. I have no idea if I'll be able to walk in them, but I can try. She said they were very comfortable, extremely so. Have to be, she's a teacher and on her feet all day.

The Purity Ball

Frankly, I find the whole concept of these to be sick!

These girls pledge to remain "pure" and instead put on their best ball gowns and dance with dad. Sure fathers and teen daughters should do things together, but not things that resemble a marriage ceremony!

piglipstick: The Purity Ball

1950s pinup model Bettie Page dies in LA at 85

Sad, but 85 is a good long life. I should be so lucky!
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